Publically Admitted – The High Level Corruption in The Gregorian Bivolaru – Misa Case
The Political Class of Romania Publically Admits Its Involvement in The Gregorian Bivolaru – Misa Case
There have already been several years since the Gregorian Bivolaru and MISA case made waves in many countries of Europe and has been giving hard times to those that created it. Nevertheless, the opinions and problems faced by the yogis were barely shown at all, and Mr Bivolaru was always presented only through the lies of others, which were far from objectively reflecting reality.
That there were interests behind the entire action of demonization of Gregorian Bivolaru and the MISA yoga school is now obvious also for high European dignitaries but nevertheless no one was taken this into consideration in order to consider the authenticity of the legal action. Even when at the time of the investigations against Gregorian Bivolaru and the MISA yoga school, the Prime Minister of Romania (Adrian Năstase) admitted that it was nothing more than a great mistake, still nothing moves in the narrow minds of the Bucharest leaders. They continue with the same attitude which they learned from their communist parents: to lie until the adversary is completely annihilated and then you will be the only one that can say something and your lie will become the historical truth.
This is a patent that was not first used by communists, but they raised it to the rank of state policy. So, we witness the public declaration on television of one of the ex-leaders of the regime that triggered the abusive investigations of Gregorian Bivolaru and the MISA yoga school and all that we have today are still on-going trials that, to on top of everything, are brought to the High Court of Cassation and Justice by the prosecutors that are still driven by the mentality of Romanian tanks: full steam ahead because any step backwards is a proof of weakness! In other countries, this video recording, that you can watch below, would have created an earthquake in the state institutions and would have led to apologies being given to those people who were abused for so many years, (there are already 8 years of humiliating trials and terrible abuses that are added to over 30 years of continuous oppression).
But not in Romania – which is already in the EU and is now knocking at the gate of the Schengen Area. Here, in Romania, this video recording, like many others, went virtually unnoticed by everybody except the victims that ineffectually shout for righteousness and justice. Here is this recording. It is followed by another short movie that presents other statements that should have led (in a normal state, with the least amount of decency) to the closing of the files and the investigation of those that committed such abuses. I hope that bringing such aspects now to the attention of the international public will help unmask the lies that the Romanian justice still hides. Already the support of European officials shows that that lie has a short life in Bucharest also.
Source : Misa-Yoga Blog
Adrian Năstase Admits That Raids Against MISA Were a “Great Mistake” On the TV show “Ştirea Zilei” (News of the Day) from Antena 3 on April 8th, 2009, Adrian Năstase admitted that the raids of the masked armed teams against MISA in 2004 were a great mistake.
The ex-Prime Minister nevertheless still continues to shamelessly lie, saying that he was not involved in their organization. But we have not forgotten the PSD stenographs that prove the fact that the diversion against MISA was done on his order, a fact which is indirectly confirmed by Marian Vanghelie.
Below, you have the transcription of the interview and the video recording with English subtitles:
Ion Cristoiu: “Forgive me for a second. Two minutes and I’m done. I look at you and can’t believe I defended you. First of all, you miserably misjudged my intentions. I did not say that Mr.Guşă ordered the arrest. I said that Mr. Guşă is the author of an electoral strategy. I neither criticized, nor praised him. A strategy that aims to attribute a person, who may be Adrian Năstase, Gabriela Firea, Ion Cristoiu or Traian Băsescu, to alleged wrongdoings. I remind you that you lost the elections, among others, also because the same police – and it was led by you Minister of Internal Affairs – and the same prosecutors ordered a brutal search with masked special armed force teams on TV, against MISA. I remind you… perhaps I’m wrong!?”
Adrian Năstase: “It’s true.”
Ion Cristoiu: “And then it was attributed to you. I did nothing else…and I have something to ask you, don’t question my intentions. I told you in the following way. I agree to criticize a political character, in the same way like you, and I defended you from this point of view, but not with propagandistic means. At least I am not playing this piece.”
Adrian Năstase: “Mr. Cristoiu, I agree to what you are saying and perhaps you have listened, at a certain point, I made a comment and you have probably seen that I was not among those who criticized Traian Băsescu’s family, and mostly his daughters. And I said, if I have something against Traian Băsescu, it’s against him personally, not his children. And this seems a question of principle and I am still true to this. And concerning MISA and the masked officers, you are perfectly right. I did not know about that operation, I found out subsequently and I believe what happened to them was a great mistake. And I paid for it. And I think undeservedly. I also paid for some deserved things, but in that affair I had no part at all. And I think it was an absolutely stupid thing, the way it was built. I don’t want to discuss anything further about what the people there did, what they did, how they gathered in circles and made all sorts of prayers and transmitted all sorts of energies. This does not concern me. And it was indeed a thing that did not have, should not have occurred.” But I believe also now… what I can tell you about what happened during the time I was Prime Minister and I regret also that thing with Mugur Ciuvică, and I, that episode… I did not order his arrest. I couldn’t have.”
In the end of the show, Adrian Năstase declared: Surely, keeping the same hope that such stupid things will never happen in Romania. I repeat, I assume a part of the guilt for some of the things during 2000-2004. But I think that such things should not occur anymore.
Here Is Some Other Shocking Proof of The Way in Which The Romanian Justice Hides The Truth (Under The Cover Of The Authorities)
Foto Source Adrian Nastase’s Blog
In alte tari aceasta inregistrare video pe care o puteti vedea mai jos ar fi produs un cutremur de proportii in institutiile statului si ar fi dus la scuzele de rigoare fata de cei abuzati timp de atatia ani (sunt deja 8 ani de procese umilitoare si abuzuri teribile care se adauga la peste 30 de ani de opresiune continua). Nu insa si in Romania care se vede intrata in UE si acum bate si la portine spatiului Schengen. Aici, in Romania, aceasta inregistrare ca si multe altele a trecut neluata in seama de nimeni altcineva decat de catre victimele care striga in zadar pentru dreptate si justitie. Iata in continuare aceasta inregistrare. Ea este urmata de un scurt film care prezinta si alte afirmatii care ar fi trebuit sa duca (intr-un stat normal si care ar avea o cat de mica decenta) la inchiderea dosarelor si anchetarea celor care au comis asemenea abuzuri. Sper ca aducerea acestor aspecte acum in atentia publicului international va ajuta la demascarea minciunilor pe care justitia din Romania inca le ascunde. Deja sprijinul oficialilor arata ca minciuna are picioare scurte si la Bucuresti. Sursa : Misa-Yoga Blog
Clasa Politica Din Romania Isi Recunoste Public Implicarea In Cazul Gregorian Bivolaru – Misa
Sunt deja mai multi ani de cand cazul Gregorian Bivolaru si MISA a facut valuri in multe tari din Europa si a adus multa bataie de cap celor care l-au creat. Cu toate acestea opiniile si problemele yoghinilor nu au fost aproape deloc aratate, iar d-nul Bivolaru a fost prezentat mereu numai prin minciunile altora care erau departe de a reflecta in mod obiectiv realitatea. Ca au existat interese in spatele intregii actiuni de demonizare a lui Gregorian Bivolaru si a scolii de yoga MISA este acum evident si pentru inalti demnitari europeni insa, nimeni nu a luat aceasta in considerare pentru a vedea autenticitatea demersului legal. Chiar si atunci cand fostul prim ministru al Romaniei (Adrian Nastase), din timpul demararii anchetelor impotriva lui Gregorian Bivolaru si a scolii de yoga MISA, recunoaste ca totul nu a fost decat o mare greseala totusi nimic nu se misca in mintea anchilozata a celor de la Bucuresti. Ei continua cu aceeasi atitudine invatata de la parintii lor comunisti: sa minti pana cand adversarul va fi anihilat cu totul si atunci tu vei fi singurul care poate sa spuna ceva iar minciuna ta va deveni adevarul istoric. Acesta este un brevet pe care nu l-au folosit comunistii prima data insa pe care ei l-au ridicat la rang de politica de stat. Astazi iata ca avem declaratia publica, televizata, a unuia dintre liderii regimului care a declansat anchetele abuzive impotriva lui Gregorian Bivolaru si a scolii de yoga MISA si tot astazi avem inca procese in instanta care culmea, sunt aduse pana la Curtea de Casatie si Justitie de catre procurorii care sunt inca manati de mentalitatea tancurilor sovietice: tot inainte pentru ca orice pas inapoi este o dovada de slabiciune!
Adrian Nastase Recunoaste Ca Descinderile Impotriva MISA Au Fost ‘O Mare Greseala’
In cadrul emisiunii “Stirea Zilei” de la Antena 3 din data de 8 aprilie 2009, Adrian Nastase a recunoscut ca descinderile mascatilor impotriva MISA din anul 2004 au fost o mare greseala. Fostul prim ministru continua totusi sa minta cu nerusinare ca nu a fost implicat in organizarea lor. Noi insa n-am uitat de stenogramele PSD care dovedesc faptul ca diversiunea contra MISA a fost realizata la ordinul sau, fapt confirmat indirect de catre Marian Vanghelie. Mai jos aveti transcrierea interviului si apoi inregistrarea video. “Ion Cristoiu: Iertaţi-mă o secundă. Două minute şi-am terminat. Mă uit la dumneavoastră şi nu-mi vine să cred că v-am apărat. În primul rând, că dumneavoastră mi-aţi făcut un proces de intenţie pe care-l consider mizer. Eu nu am spus că domnul Guşă a ordonat arestarea. Am spus că domnul Guşă este autorul unei strategii electorale. Nici nu l-am criticat, nici nu l-am lăudat. Care vizează atribuirea unei persoane, care poate fi Adrian Năstase, Gabriela Vrânceanu Firea, Ion Cristoiu sau Traian Băsescu, a unor vini presupuse. Vă reamintesc că dumneavoastră aţi pierdut alegerile, printre altele, şi pentru că aceeaşi poliţie – şi chiar era condusă de ministrul dumneavoastră de Interne – şi aceiaşi procurori au ordonat o percheziţie cu mascaţi, brutală, la televizor, la MISA. Vă reamintesc… poate greşesc!?… Adrian Năstase: Aşa este. Ion Cristoiu: Şi după asta vi s-a atribuit dumneavoastră. Eu n-am făcut altceva… şi am o rugăminte, nu-mi faceţi procese de intenţie. Eu am spus în felul următor. Sunt de acord să criticăm un personaj politic, ca şi pe dumneavoastră şi v-am luat apărarea din acest punct de vedere, dar nu cu mijloace propagandistice. Eu cel puţin nu mă înscriu în piesa asta. Adrian Năstase: Domnul Cristoiu, sunt de acord cu ce spuneţi şi dacă poate aţi ascultat la un moment dat, am făcut un comentariu şi aţi văzut probabil că eu n-am intrat în rândul celor care au criticat familia lui Traian Băsescu, şi mai ales pe fetele lui. Şi am spus, dacă am ceva cu Traian Băsescu am cu el, şi nu cu copiii lui. Şi asta mi se pare o chestiune de principiu şi ţin în continuare la acest lucru. Iar în ceea ce priveşte MISA şi mascaţii aveţi perfectă dreptate. Eu n-am ştiut de acea operaţiune, am aflat ulterior şi cred că a fost o mare greşeală ce s-a întâmplat atunci. Şi eu am plătit pentru ea. Şi cred că nemeritat. Am plătit şi pentru unele lucruri meritate, dar în acea chestiune chiar n-am avut nici un fel de rol. Şi cred că a fost o chestiune absolut stupidă, aşa cum a fost construită. Nu vreau să discut nimic în continuare despre ce-au făcut cei de-acolo, ce făceau, cum se strângeau în cercuri şi făceau tot felul de rugăciuni şi transmiteau tot felul de energii. Nu asta mă interesează. A fost însă un lucru într-adevăr care nu avea, nu trebuia să se întâmple. Dar cred şi acum… ceea ce pot să spun despre ceea ce s-a întâmplat pe vremea când eram prim-ministru şi regret şi chestiunea aceea cu Mugur Ciuvică, iar eu, episodul acela… eu n-am dat un ordin ca el să fie arestat. Nici nu puteam s-o fac.”
In finalul emisiunii Adrian Nastase declara: “Sigur, în aceeaşi speranţă că astfel de lucruri stupide nu se vor mai întâmpla în România. Repet, îmi asum şi eu o vină pentru unele din lucrurile din perioada 2000-2004. Dar cred că astfel de lucruri n-ar trebui să se mai întâmple.”
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Yes, we live in a society where such animalistic lineage and lack of spine is perpetuated and is rottening the core of many.
I just don’t think that these person still ”in power” would make the big mistake and stupidity to keep on their plans now when all is exposed much more clear and direct as such.
People would indeed go on the streets and i doubt the romanian society can afford to take this now. They must make now real good logistic calculations.. on hiding their sh*t.. just it’s not gonna be possible anymore.. and they know it.
.. welcome to the time to play with all the cards on the table!
The road of lying and hurting others has an end from its beginning.. and it’s coming now.
It is brilliant how you could put together so many datas that seemed to be forgotten.. thank you.. let’s see what these bring now.
(I know it’s not the time for ”petting”.. but i have to say that i love so much the light in you that gives life to the truth and empowers the good.. ; it’s good to live in these times together with people like you).
Only in Romania…
A legal case run with fraud, bad intentions and false pretexts that is justified by a corroupt legal and political system, manically looking (since the case started in 2004) to justify their existence by picking on an independent and strong organization which is not using the ultra corrupt old-boys network of failed ex-communists mixed with oppotunist politicians, mafia, and media desperate for sensational stories. Like a left over from the times where people could not express their sincere beliefs, now this network is desperately trying to keep itself alive, by sacrificing the leader of the misa organization, in a project called “operation Christ” (not kidding), by the people who themselves cooked up these unbeliveably slanderous offensive lies. Using cultural weakness in Romania for desperate attacks on an organization, in fact beneficial for the Romanian society itself.
Only in Romania one sees so absurd alliances between people like Nastase, who, like we see in the first video “didnt know” about the horrible police-state misuse of power, even though he was in power at the time, and the media so desperate to sell a story. – Any story.
In the fist video Nastase openly tells “the crime” Gregorian Bivolaru did: Praying and transmittng energies.
As i am a part of this school, and my teachers are Mihai Stoian and Mr. Bivolaru for 15 years, i can say that students in this yogaschool are preoccupied with doing the right thing, and living life in the best way possible for ALL human beings.
Soon i will know if in Romania doing the best for other people is secondary to “praying and transmitting energies”, which seems to be punishable by law there.
Beware Romanians, if Mr. Bivolaru is falsely convicted, next time might be YOUR family and friends who are targets for “praying and transmitting energies”. …. or whatever else they might cook up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvL_DGjGuhA
I just wanted to bring this clip to your attention, it shows the terrible conditions of children in an orphanage in Romania, you can see how their conditions were worse than any jail or zoo that you would find in a decent first world country.
If they can allow innocent children to rot like animals in a cage and live (or die) in such a diabolical and miserable way, then it is no surprise that they can act in such a horrific manner towards yoga students!!!
It is no surprise that they can storm people as they sleep, that they can come masked, with fire arms and drag them naked from their beds and throw them on the ground.
It is no surprise that they can threaten them with guns and keep them captive without giving them any information or allowing them any basic human rights. It is no surprise that they can steal their belongings and not return them.
Welcome to Romania! Shame on the those who orchestrated these actions, they are the ones who should be on trial for their abhorrent crimes. It will be no surprise when they are brought to justice and for the yogis to be able to live in peace.
Direct truth!
The power of film and TV comes from our human ability to identify with each other. We see an expression and empathically know what he/she experience.
Politicians are ususally very skilled in diverting embarrassing questions and instead give emotional emphasis and thus screen time to their strong cards. Sometimes though, the question bursts in from the back door and for a moment we see their authentic human reaction. Try to see the clip without sound, to see and feel what is really happening!
Many people have talked about the absurd persecutions agains the Romanian yogaschool MISA as being dictated by official or inofficial powerstructures and the former Romanian Prime Minister Nastase has been pin-pointed as being among the responsable. In this live transmitted interview the shameful truth becomes obvious, as the aging former politician unvillingly expose not only that the violations were a big mistake, proceeded by discussions among those in power. And disussions not on possible criminality, but on the prayers and transmission of energies within MISA…
In the beginning of the clip we see the aging man being tried by an agitated opponent. He (Adrian Nastase) keeps his composure during the first minute of being preassured. At 00:54 MISA is suddenly mentioned and for the next 20 seconds his face and body movements display nothing but shame and guilt. Looking down, away, half sentences that he stops himself etc. It is like watching the embarrasment of a dog being cought with doing something he knew he should not have done.
At around 01:07 he realise that he is exposed and has already admitted. As the second best option he starts by reaffirming his character; stating that he was not as bad as some others (who brought the opponents family into a political vendetta). At 01:40 he finds that he has regained composure enought to enter the issue of MISA and starts by affirming verbally part of what his body language already told us – that the MISA case is a big shameful mistake. After this he immediately states that he was unknowing and not responsible. He feels it is going well and even position himself (not the yogies) as the innocent victim in the MISA case (“I have paid for this. I think undeservedly” at 01:51).
He is now really back on track. He feels he has the sympathy with him and takes the same strategy one more round.. At 01:54 he reaffirms his character by showing that he can admit mistakes and willingly stand for them and after that repeats his innocence in the MISA case and that he considers it a mistake. He is getting all warmed up now! He has shown himself as a good and open human being who can admit mistakes, but is an innocent victim in this case.
But at this moment he gets cought by his own play.. At 02:07 he raise his voice and declares that he does not want to hear anymore about the MISA case (implicitly because he is innocent and even so has already payed for it). He is now invoulnerable in relation to this story and as he relaxes this moment of triumph he says the most amazing things!
“I do not want to hear anymore about how they gather in circles, make prayers and transmit energies.” (02:10-02:16)
By this the former Primeminister not only admit that the MISA case has been discussed (as has also been shown on the dictates from the party meetings). What has been discussed are not possibly illegal affairs, but possible forms of prayers, spirals and energy transmissions!
After some time he feels as if something was wrong in what he just said. He stumbles alittle and hoping the others did not catch and wraps it up by affirming that anyway, he personally coudl not have ordered the arrest.
Please enjoy this display of how truly we humans can understand each other and how the truth can not be hidden between hearts.
@ agape
As usual you gave a very interesting view on one of the topics presented. Thank you. It is indeed a brilliant idea to view this video without sound in order to observe the body language and in this way to realize the way Nastase is reacting.
The guilt comes also from the fact that Nastase was the rapporteur for sects and their activities for EU in Romania before Romania joined the EU. And from this position he was repeatedly depicted MISA as a dangerous sect, fact that was building up the hysteria against MISA to very high levels. Then in 2004 it was enough to throw some orders in the right circles of power and the disaster was already done… In this interview Nastase is buying his innocence admitting a small mistake. If one will not know the situation would believe that the poor innocent politician was just a victim of the immense fight between rival forces (MISA being one of them…) and he is now paying the bills. In reality he is paying the bills that he made.
What is totally astonishing is how unbelievable it still is for most of the people with common sense that after such a declaration of the prime minister the authorities continued for months and years in the same manner to invent accusations, to finance press campaigns against this yoga school with millions of euros … and all these for the bare purpose of destroying spirituality …
Uite ca totusi in an electoral Nastase demonstreaza ca nu a invatat nimic din greselile sale din trecut. http://nastase.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/breaking-news-votantii-lui-basescu-fug-in-congo/
Dear Adi
sometimes people don’t learn anything and they also want to show it to everybody…. it’s like in the Romanian saying: “A stupid one, is not stupid enough if he’s not also proud”. I saw Nastase’s declaration and he is indeed “gone”, he just doesn’t see it that way… yet
Why is this not being spread all around Romania? I mean, if the media is quiet, why isn’t there a site created for this, and posters put all over the major cities, stating “DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BIVOLARU? http://www.bivolarufacts.com” or something similar?
After this is spread all through the cities this cannot be ignored anymore!
Ronan
@Ronan
that’s actually a very good idea, i was also wondering how long will romanians wait to do this.. If newspapers won’t take the truth, that let it spread among people. Why keep your mouth shut now?? the european parliament is with us, but we should also proove we breath life..
or you know what? we should gather all around the world in front of romanian ambassads in each country that has a MISA course and speak out the truth, in peace. slowly there will be no place left to continue to ignore it.
What do you think, Mihai?